Subject: Re: [Moneta-L] Valerian Clasped hands ant. Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 21:58:03 -0600 From: Stephen Coulter To: Moneta-L@onelist.com Treverus Coins wrote: > We had fun with my last question, here is another mystery! > > VALERIAN I > AR Antoninianus 253-260 A.D. > O: Radiant, draped bust right. IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS AVG. > R: CONCORDIA AVGG, Clasped hands. This was to show joint rule with > Gallienus his son. > > This isn't listed in any of the following RIC, Hunter, Cunetio, Gallway, > Sear, VanM, or Vagi!! > > Has anyone ever seen this before?? > > I have seen the coin for Gallienus before. > > Any help would greatly appreciated. > > Mitch > I have not seen this coin before; it would appear to be a hybrid with a reverse of Gallienus. There are a number of these known from the sole reign (sole reign obverse/joint reign reverse); however, since this obverse legend and reverse date from the very beginning of the reign, that would not seem to be a feasible explanation. Some hints as to the origin of this coin may be found in the essay "Mints in the Third Century", by R.A.G. Carson, found in "Scripta Nummaria Romana". While the analysis in this essay deals mostly with the coinage of Gallus and Volusian, it does tend to show that, where there were two emperors, the Rome mint tended to strike series with the same obverse legend (varying only the name), combined with a series of reverses unique to each emperor. The officinae seem to have been divided in the ratio of 2:1 in favor of the senior emperor, that is, if a six officina organization, the four for Valerian and two for Gallienus; if twelve, then double each of those numbers. A look at RIC V tends to confirm that trend, with the obverse legend IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS (or GALLIENVS) AVG paired with twelve AVGG reverses, roughly eight for Valerian and four for Gallienus, not counting minor variants in spelling, etc., attributed to ad253. The relevance of the Carson article is that he shows, while the emperor/reverse combination holds for the vast majority of the coins, there are a few examples of most of the types where a reverse was paired with the wrong emperor. At an admitedly wild guess, your coin, coming immediately after the reign of Gallus and Volusian, continued that same pattern. One always hesitates to say that something is unpublished, but....... Steve Coulter ------------------------------------------------------------------------ LOW RATE, NO WAIT! Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Learn more at: http://click.egroups.com/1/937/2/_/448667/_/954647967/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Moneta-L is a free list sponsored by Kevin Barry as an open forum for ancient coin collectors. For information on subscribing, unsubscribing or changing your subscription go to: http://www.bitsofhistory.com/moneta-l.html